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Programma Televisivo: Criminal Minds - 2x19

south san francisco,ca 2 00:00:44,220 --> 00:00:45,580 Mom,dad! Dad,we have to go! 3 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:46,180 What? 4 00:00:46,180 --> 00:00:47,930 The house is on fire,we have to get out of here! 5 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:49,290 Come on,we have to go! 6 00:00:50,210 --> 00:00:52,240 The phone's dead--go!Come on,we gotta go! 7 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,010 Come on.Stay down. 8 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:55,500 Stay down. 9 00:02:21,330 --> 00:02:22,470 Somebody! 10 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:24,850 Somebody! 11 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:28,720 Somebody,please help us! 12 00:03:47,410 --> 00:03:53,180 -=www.ydy.com/bbs=- Proudly Presents 13 00:03:53,370 --> 00:04:01,580 Sync: YTET-cauorr ��Xˆ�| -=www.ydy.com/bbs=- 14 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:12,000 criminal minds Season2 Episode19 15 00:04:18,370 --> 00:04:21,650 "The torture of a bad conscience is the hell of a living soul." 16 00:04:22,330 --> 00:04:23,500 John calvin. 17 00:04:24,670 --> 00:04:26,780 Two fires,two families in three weeks. 18 00:04:27,190 --> 00:04:29,120 The first family,the jarvis', 19 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:30,610 all died. 20 00:04:30,610 --> 00:04:32,370 Last night,the cutlers. 21 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:34,650 Only one survivor,charlotte cutler, 22 00:04:34,650 --> 00:04:38,730 she's in critical condition with burns to over 60% of her bodY. 23 00:04:38,730 --> 00:04:39,780 Well,it's no accident. 24 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,730 It's the same M.O. No fuses,kerosene, 25 00:04:43,260 --> 00:04:44,550 multiple points of origin, 26 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:47,430 families targeted at home while they slept. 27 00:04:47,650 --> 00:04:49,340 The bay area has a serial arsonist. 28 00:04:49,340 --> 00:04:52,430 Statistically,94% of all serial arsonists are male, 29 00:04:52,430 --> 00:04:55,030 75% are white,and few, 30 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:56,520 if any,are ever caught. 31 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Few? 32 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,800 You don't have a percentage? 33 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,850 About 16%, 34 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:02,930 and those 16% set 30-plus fires before they were ever apprehended. 35 00:05:02,930 --> 00:05:04,630 I'm trying to be more conversational. 36 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:06,840 Oh.It's not working. 37 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,610 Most serial arsonists don't intend to inflict harm. 38 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:12,700 Injuries or death,those are accidental. 39 00:05:12,850 --> 00:05:14,090 It's not about violence. 40 00:05:14,090 --> 00:05:15,150 For this one it is. 41 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,360 It's also about power. 42 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:20,110 Seeing the destructive force of their fires. 43 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,660 Watching the chaos, 44 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:25,090 for them,fire's just a substitute for sexual release. 45 00:05:25,090 --> 00:05:28,030 Oh,great,so if these guys don't get laid,they start fires? 46 00:05:28,030 --> 00:05:30,530 Or in this case,burn entire families to death. 47 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:34,060 -No statistic? -Nope. 48 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:36,510 They don't have statistics on this guy. 49 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:38,440 One of a kind. 50 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:39,850 Thank god. 51 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,390 Three weeks ago,this serial arsonist escalated into a serial killer whose weapon is fire. 52 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:46,580 Why? 53 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:48,090 Major event. 54 00:05:48,530 --> 00:05:51,340 Possibly the breakup of his primary sexual outlet. 55 00:05:51,770 --> 00:05:53,520 The separation,the loss. 56 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:55,140 all right What about the victims? 57 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,830 Sfpd can't connect the jarvis' and the cutlers, 58 00:05:57,830 --> 00:06:02,880 but witnesses put an unidentified late model gold sedan near both fires. 59 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:03,670 Run the car. 60 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:05,340 Garcia,run the victims through the system, 61 00:06:05,340 --> 00:06:06,910 if there's any connection we need to find it. 62 00:06:06,910 --> 00:06:07,560 Yes,sir. 63 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,640 We need victimology. 64 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:10,980 I'll go see charlotte cutler. 65 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:12,940 You took the burn one last timE. 66 00:06:13,550 --> 00:06:14,480 It's all right.I got it. 67 00:06:34,250 --> 00:06:36,070 Has she said anything about the fires? 68 00:06:36,470 --> 00:06:38,500 I'm giving her as much painkiller as I can. 69 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,540 She asked about her husband and son. 70 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:43,230 She passed out again before I had to answer. 71 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:44,520 So she doesn't know. 72 00:06:46,630 --> 00:06:47,940 Whatever you tell her, 73 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:50,130 she won't live long enough to know different. 74 00:06:52,250 --> 00:06:53,670 I'll be right back. 75 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,710 -Did she just tell us to lie to a material witness? -No. 76 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:03,630 She told us that we could. 77 00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:14,970 Welcome.Ricardo vega,sffdr. 78 00:07:15,450 --> 00:07:17,670 Hi.Jason gideon,this is derek morgan. 79 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,980 Most likely the arson suspect is a first responder 80 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:24,060 who set both fires with premeditative intent to return to it within a professional capacity. 81 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:24,960 You read my paper. 82 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,270 "Profiles of a serial arsonist," 83 00:07:26,270 --> 00:07:27,810 I make everyone on my team read it. 84 00:07:28,090 --> 00:07:29,680 I've run the first responders of both fires, 85 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,080 these are the pedigrees of everyone that was here that night. 86 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:34,800 No fire,police,or emt responded to both. 87 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,700 -No one -except me, 88 00:07:36,820 --> 00:07:39,670 which is why I've included copies of my department performance reviews, 89 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:41,000 medical records,and psych-evals. 90 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,810 -It's unnecessary. -No,it's not. 91 00:07:43,470 --> 00:07:46,640 Your best suspect is a fireman who saw both fires burning.That's me. 92 00:07:47,870 --> 00:07:49,120 I'm saving you time. 93 00:07:49,890 --> 00:07:51,100 Come on,I'll walk you through it. 94 00:07:56,980 --> 00:07:58,290 Mrs. Cutler? 95 00:07:59,330 --> 00:08:00,910 I'm special agent aaron hotchner, 96 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:03,280 -this is special agent emily prentiss. -Hello. 97 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:06,130 Where's paul? 98 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,770 Your son 99 00:08:08,290 --> 00:08:09,580 was with you the night of the fire. 100 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:10,720 That's why we're here. 101 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:12,900 I don't understand. 102 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:14,680 We're fbi agents. 103 00:08:15,220 --> 00:08:17,710 We think that the fire may have been set intentionallY. 104 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,640 I'm very tired. 105 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:21,360 I understand. 106 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:23,050 This is very important. 107 00:08:23,050 --> 00:08:25,570 Do you think you could just give us a couple of minutes? 108 00:08:28,220 --> 00:08:30,110 I want you to think back to that night. 109 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,450 Was there anything out of the ordinary? 110 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:38,840 Think about the things that you normally do. 111 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:41,250 Uh,get undressed, 112 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:42,330 wash your face 113 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:44,290 I couldn't brush my teeth. 114 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:46,040 Dennis? 115 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,610 The water's not working. 116 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:49,500 I'll check it out. 117 00:08:50,820 --> 00:08:53,610 Dennis got the water back on. 118 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:56,720 Then 119 00:08:57,630 --> 00:09:00,180 then you went to bed? 120 00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:04,330 Do you remember what woke you up? 121 00:09:04,980 --> 00:09:07,710 -Paul. -Not the smoke alarms? 122 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:12,210 It was paul. 123 00:09:13,250 --> 00:09:14,780 What else do you remember? 124 00:09:19,050 --> 00:09:21,160 Dennis unlocked it and it wouldn't open. 125 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:23,430 He unlocked what? 126 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:24,910 The front door! 127 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,330 Somebody please help us,please! 128 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,510 What's wrong?! 129 00:09:34,510 --> 00:09:35,780 I ca 130 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:42,720 Somebody! 131 00:09:45,050 --> 00:09:47,560 Somebody,Please help us,please 132 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,170 And then I saw the fireman. 133 00:09:57,980 --> 00:09:59,670 and****ok 134 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:03,680 Dennis? 135 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:06,140 Paul where's my baby? 136 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:08,280 Paul.Where are they?Are they ok? 137 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:10,050 They're fine. 138 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:12,420 They're just outside in the waiting room. 139 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:20,280 Ohh oh,right. 140 00:10:27,170 --> 00:10:29,340 I don't want them to see me like this. 141 00:10:30,450 --> 00:10:31,920 No,I'm not ready.Could you-- 142 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:34,990 please tell them to wait a minute,please? 143 00:10:34,990 --> 00:10:36,470 I'm not ready. 144 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:38,740 Agent prentiss will tell them. 145 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,580 You call gideon and morgan? 146 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:49,840 I can stay with you until you're ready. 147 00:10:50,610 --> 00:10:52,230 If you'd like. 148 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:56,630 I'd like that. 149 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,220 She told her husband there was no water. 150 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:21,110 Where's the shut-off? 151 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:22,660 Runs up the sidewalk. 152 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:25,970 Ok,so I'm the unsub. 153 00:11:33,810 --> 00:11:35,260 I need to get in the house. 154 00:11:38,730 --> 00:11:40,900 So I turn the water off right here. 155 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,230 And then I wait. 156 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:55,190 I wait for him to come outside. 157 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:05,110 I wait for them to go to sleep 158 00:12:10,610 --> 00:12:12,430 and then I carefully pour the fuel. 159 00:12:19,070 --> 00:12:20,860 Cutting access to the back door. 160 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,570 I leave them only one way to get out. 161 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,340 S.F.F.D. Headquarters SAN FRANCISCO,CA 162 00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:37,400 This place is great!They have their own espresso machine. 163 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:40,120 Dr. Reid,this is detective castro, 164 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,260 she is with the sfpd liaison. 165 00:12:42,260 --> 00:12:44,370 Burned my hand on that espresso machine. 166 00:12:44,370 --> 00:12:45,340 Ooh! 167 00:12:45,340 --> 00:12:46,430 A genius,you said? 168 00:12:46,430 --> 00:12:47,040 Yeah,uh, 169 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,570 his coordination drops off when he's thinking. 170 00:12:49,570 --> 00:12:50,120 Good. 171 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,280 'Cause we need to figure out why this psycho chooses these families. 172 00:12:53,870 --> 00:12:55,570 He's most likely targeting the men. 173 00:12:55,860 --> 00:12:57,900 They're the only similar members of the two families. 174 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:00,400 C. Jarvis,29,worked full-time. 175 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,770 Charlotte cutler,39,was a stay-at-home mom. 176 00:13:02,770 --> 00:13:05,670 The jarvis' had two girls in public grade school, 177 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:07,540 cutler's had a son in private high school. 178 00:13:07,540 --> 00:13:09,470 The jarvis' went to church,the cutlers didn'T. 179 00:13:09,470 --> 00:13:10,580 Nothing holds. 180 00:13:10,580 --> 00:13:11,370 Except with the men-- 181 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:12,950 both in their late thirties,white, 182 00:13:12,950 --> 00:13:15,290 approximately 6-feet tall,brown hair, 183 00:13:15,290 --> 00:13:17,980 nice homes,nice families,good jobs, 184 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,290 that's the connection. 185 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,630 What connection? 186 00:13:20,850 --> 00:13:21,720 Cutler was a lawyer, 187 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,970 jarvis an executive. 188 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:24,330 There's no evidence they ever met. 189 00:13:24,330 --> 00:13:25,510 But they're of the same type. 190 00:13:25,510 --> 00:13:27,840 We know that most serial arsonists are white males. 191 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,910 A complex M.O.Develops over time. 192 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,680 This guy is in his mid-thirties, 193 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,880 he sees the victims as successful versions of himself. 194 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,340 And he resents them for it. 195 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,070 I'll issue an A.P.B. 196 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:41,050 For a resentful 6-foot white guy. 197 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:50,580 Ok,great.I got it.Thanks. 198 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:52,240 Charlotte cutler died. 199 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,050 I'm sorry. 200 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:54,930 Next time I'll go. 201 00:13:54,930 --> 00:13:56,350 What have we got on the vehicle? 202 00:13:56,350 --> 00:13:59,750 Uh,it is a 1999 gold ford taurus. 203 00:13:59,750 --> 00:14:04,210 85% of that model color-combo were sold domestically as fleet vehicles. 204 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:05,160 Company cars, 205 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,680 rental fleets. 206 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Did you check all agencies? 207 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,870 Yeah,none of them kept them for the past three weeks, 208 00:14:09,870 --> 00:14:10,870 or rented during both fires, 209 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:11,960 so 210 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,120 who keeps a rental car for three weeks? 211 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,990 Then it's not a rental. 212 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:17,430 It would have to be a company car. 213 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:20,000 This guy,he had to have time to stalk his victims. 214 00:14:20,990 --> 00:14:22,020 And if his job involves driving-- 215 00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:25,050 there was a serial arsonist up in seattle,early nineties 216 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,630 -paul kenneth keller. -Yeah. 217 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,420 He used to drive around all day selling 218 00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:30,170 advertising for his dad's agency, 219 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:32,020 picking out places to burn. 220 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,190 Company car.Good work,J.J. 221 00:14:35,380 --> 00:14:36,740 Let's do the profile. 222 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:41,870 The unsub we're looking for is a highly intelligent, 223 00:14:41,870 --> 00:14:44,900 under-achieving,35 to 45-year-old white male 224 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:47,270 with a severe narcissistic character disorder. 225 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:49,700 Nothing in his life works for long. 226 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:52,190 If he was married,he's now divorced. 227 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:54,450 If employed,it won't last. 228 00:14:55,070 --> 00:14:56,380 What he wants is admiration, 229 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,390 but he's got no respect for others-- 230 00:14:58,390 --> 00:15:00,870 not their feelings,and most certainly not their safety. 231 00:15:00,870 --> 00:15:02,210 He feels entitled. 232 00:15:02,390 --> 00:15:04,030 He's like a petulant adolescent. 233 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:07,810 He both resents and he absolutely expects everyone to take care of him. 234 00:15:07,810 --> 00:15:10,040 And given that a male relative wouldn't tolerate this behavior, 235 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,410 he most likely lives with a female relative 236 00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:14,940 his mother,grandmother,aunt,whom he exploits. 237 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,590 His arson kit is expensive. 238 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,390 Fire suit, 239 00:15:18,390 --> 00:15:19,460 oxygen mask. 240 00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:20,970 This suggests that he may be employed, 241 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:25,050 but his personality will not allow him to work closely with others in an office setting. 242 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:28,200 This along with the information about his vehicle lead us to believe that 243 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,840 he's a traveling salesman of some sort, 244 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,270 who works for a company big enough not to notice that he's a sociopath. 245 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:37,220 Ok,this scumbag has issues,we all get it. 246 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:39,640 But why fire? 247 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,660 He's like a drug addict. 248 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:43,430 Only fire's his drug. 249 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:44,890 Each time an addict needs a fix, 250 00:15:44,890 --> 00:15:46,710 they need more of the drug to get off. 251 00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:48,980 So his crimes most likely get much worse. 252 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:52,260 It would be almost impossible for him to quit without help. 253 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Thank you very much. 254 00:16:00,110 --> 00:16:02,410 She shoots she scores! 255 00:16:02,540 --> 00:16:05,250 The crowd goes wild. 256 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:08,610 I just put the entire department on tac alert. 257 00:16:09,950 --> 00:16:11,230 Garcia's on line one. 258 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:14,650 Brace yourselves. 259 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:16,660 I'm gonna teach you the meaning of lust. 260 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:18,250 -Did she say lust? -Mm-hmm. 261 00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:21,310 I cross-referenced every known fact on the victims, 262 00:16:21,310 --> 00:16:24,100 and I just found a website that links both dennis cutler 263 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:29,040 and matthew jarvis' companies on a list of businesses guilty of L.U.S.T. 264 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,090 I'm missing something. 265 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:31,780 Leaking underground storage tanks. 266 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,350 The website belongs to a recently founded san francisco chapter of the earth defense front. 267 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:37,360 The edf? 268 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:38,960 The eco-terrorist group? 269 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,180 They aren't eco-terrorists,they're environmental activists. 270 00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:43,410 Dennis cutler and matthew jarvis may disagree with you. 271 00:16:43,410 --> 00:16:48,160 I'm pretty sure some edf people were sent up for torching an suv dealership a while back in san diego. 272 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,430 Nobody died in those fires. 273 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Maybe they got lucky. 274 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,110 No,it's not luck. 275 00:16:52,110 --> 00:16:54,070 This group's dedicated to protecting life. 276 00:16:54,070 --> 00:16:56,810 What,do they wait until no one's home and then light the place up? 277 00:16:56,810 --> 00:16:58,030 That's exactly what they do. 278 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,220 So tell me who we're playing again today. 279 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:00,840 We play the jets. 280 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,180 The jets,right,ok. 281 00:17:02,330 --> 00:17:04,180 I'll be-- in a second. 282 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:05,770 Katie! 283 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:08,720 Come on.We're not gonna be late twice in one week. 284 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 -Yeah? -I'coming! 285 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,020 Come on,sweetie. 286 00:17:15,340 --> 00:17:16,600 RighT. 287 00:17:17,290 --> 00:17:18,740 No,I got that. 288 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:19,760 Yeah. 289 00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:20,420 No,we're leavin'-- 290 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:21,720 we're leavin' right now. 291 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,820 Yeah. 292 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:26,340 All right,guys. 293 00:17:26,340 --> 00:17:27,560 We ready? 294 00:17:29,290 --> 00:17:30,490 Belt. 295 00:17:30,490 --> 00:17:31,870 Oh,yeah. 296 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,440 -What's wrong? -I don't know. 297 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:36,890 It's not opening. 298 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:38,920 Are you telling me that the fbi doesn't have 299 00:17:39,380 --> 00:17:42,430 files on organizations like this?Lists and members? 300 00:17:42,830 --> 00:17:45,540 Domestic groups like the edf aren't the bureau's top priority right now. 301 00:17:45,540 --> 00:17:48,050 Besides,they're more of a movement than an organization. 302 00:17:48,430 --> 00:17:49,850 There's a central ideology, 303 00:17:50,580 --> 00:17:51,350 but-- chapters are independent, 304 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:53,850 they don't pay dues and they don't keep membership lists. 305 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:57,690 What if one of the chapters has broken ranks and has a new belief? 306 00:17:58,090 --> 00:17:59,250 dad? 307 00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:01,140 What are you doing?! 308 00:18:01,690 --> 00:18:02,710 Hey!Get out,guys, 309 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:03,440 get out!Get out! 310 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:04,620 -get out!kids,Get out now! -dad,It's not opening! 311 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:06,300 -Come on,It won't open,dad! -Open the door!Get out! 312 00:18:10,990 --> 00:18:12,170 Hurting people's never been part of it. 313 00:18:12,170 --> 00:18:13,030 Doesn't track. 314 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,350 Doesn't fit the profile. 315 00:18:14,540 --> 00:18:18,050 Garcia,can you identify how many members are in this particular edf chapter? 316 00:18:18,050 --> 00:18:21,700 Uh,it looks like a hundred to 150. 317 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:23,720 -What are you doing?! -It's not opening! 318 00:18:24,780 --> 00:18:28,050 -I'm scared,dad!I'm scared! -Doors open--open! 319 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,890 Start the car!I'm trying-- it won't start. 320 00:18:30,930 --> 00:18:31,930 Hurry! 321 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:33,080 I'm scared,dad,I'm scared! 322 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,590 Come on,get out! 323 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:35,980 Get out!Keep trying!Keep trying! 324 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:38,960 Come on!Keep trying-- what are you doing?! 325 00:19:01,330 --> 00:19:04,020 Thomas R. Dunleavy,dunbrook development group. 326 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:07,020 On the list. 327 00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:10,670 Ok,I'm sending you a file on the edf leader. 328 00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:14,210 Evan abby,41,5'11'',185 pounds. 329 00:19:14,570 --> 00:19:15,460 Thanks,garcia. 330 00:19:15,460 --> 00:19:18,110 Pardon me for asking,sir,but how do we even know he's involved? 331 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,540 We don'T.That's why we're interviewing abby at the crime scene. 332 00:19:20,790 --> 00:19:22,210 If he is the leader of the edf, 333 00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:25,190 his reaction to all this should tell us exactly what we need to know. 334 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:30,580 Where do you guys want it? 335 00:19:30,970 --> 00:19:32,030 This is the spot. 336 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:32,990 When he arrives, 337 00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:34,820 bring the fake bodies right past us 338 00:19:35,030 --> 00:19:35,990 nice and slow. 339 00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:37,970 I want him to get a good look. 340 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:40,320 Remind me to never play poker with you guys. 341 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,100 So what do we have on this guy? 342 00:19:45,850 --> 00:19:47,280 -Hotch! -What? 343 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:49,100 What do we have on the edf leader? 344 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:52,830 Evan abby,41,divorced,father of liam,14. 345 00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:54,260 Environmental engineer, 346 00:19:54,810 --> 00:19:56,950 does consults on real estate projects, 347 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:58,970 has worked with every company on the edf list. 348 00:19:59,780 --> 00:20:00,900 Can't wait to meet him. 349 00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:10,450 Mr. Abby,these are special agents jason gideon and aaron hotchner. 350 00:20:10,450 --> 00:20:11,840 Thank you for coming. 351 00:20:12,460 --> 00:20:16,070 Um,agent prentiss said you needed my help with a L.U.S.T.Related fire? 352 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:17,670 Yeah,it's pretty bad. 353 00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:20,330 Tom,brad,katie dunleavy. 354 00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:22,060 All burned to death. 355 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:24,810 Whew. 356 00:20:25,660 --> 00:20:27,520 Uh so,um,where's the-- 357 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,180 uh,where's the leaking storage tank? 358 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:30,280 Katie was only 12. 359 00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:33,960 You've got a son about that age,don't you? 360 00:20:36,170 --> 00:20:37,630 Did you know tom dunleavy? 361 00:20:39,450 --> 00:20:40,120 What is this? 362 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:41,880 He worked for dunbrook development group. 363 00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:43,760 Why are you asking me these questions? 364 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,380 You posted dunbrook on your website. 365 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:46,910 My website? 366 00:20:46,910 --> 00:20:48,930 Look,I came down here voluntarily 367 00:20:48,930 --> 00:20:51,250 because I was told you needed help with a L.U.S.T.Related fire. 368 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:52,740 Three fires . 369 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:54,870 three families 370 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,880 three fathers 371 00:20:57,450 --> 00:21:00,100 who worked for companies posted on your edf website. 372 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:01,130 All burned to death. 373 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,750 You worked for these companies-- every one on your list. 374 00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:05,670 Are you accusing me of a crime? 375 00:21:06,430 --> 00:21:07,410 What do you think? 376 00:21:07,410 --> 00:21:09,640 Mr. Abby,I support your cause. 377 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:11,560 But I reject these methods. 378 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:15,190 I don't know what cause or methods you're referring to. 379 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:16,200 You created the site, 380 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,300 you posted the list,you're the leader of the edf. 381 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,500 Well,if you could prove that,we wouldn't be having this conversation,would we? 382 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:23,910 Mr. Abby,people are dying. 383 00:21:24,830 --> 00:21:26,010 Children,mr. Abby. 384 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,420 We know edf's strategy has always supported violence. 385 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:32,470 I'm asking you,has edf's strategy changed? 386 00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:35,310 No.It hasn'T. 387 00:21:41,500 --> 00:21:42,970 He could barely look at this. 388 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,640 A serial arsonist wouldn't be able to peel his eyes away. 389 00:21:46,830 --> 00:21:48,080 He's hiding somethinG. 390 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320 More than just his support for the edf. 391 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,300 Hey,it occurred to me 392 00:21:51,650 --> 00:21:56,260 if all I knew about the edf was that they went around burning down suv dealerships 393 00:21:56,260 --> 00:21:58,500 and housing developments 394 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,010 well,that's a common misconception. 395 00:22:00,430 --> 00:22:01,500 That's my point. 396 00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:03,700 What if our profile is right-- 397 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:06,160 and the unsub held the same misconception? 398 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,120 He wants to fit in, 399 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,640 he wants people around him to appreciate what he does, 400 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,750 isn't it possible that the unsub joined the edf thinking-- 401 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:15,350 it was an arsonist's club? 402 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:17,030 Sure.That's possible. 403 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:21,200 If we give abby our unsub's profile could he help us identify him? 404 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,450 We can't give abby the profile, 405 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:24,160 not until we find out what he's hiding. 406 00:22:24,380 --> 00:22:28,180 Still,it seems abby's our best chance of finding the unsub. 407 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:29,640 You want abby or the ex-wife? 408 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Abby. 409 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:41,700 At berkeley 20 years ago,evan was a different person. 1 00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:39,860 At berkeley 20 years ago, 2 00:22:39,910 --> 00:22:42,170 evan was a different person. 3 00:22:42,270 --> 00:22:43,400 In every way. 4 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Warm,funny,honest. 5 00:22:46,810 --> 00:22:48,320 Even naive. 6 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:49,310 What happened? 7 00:22:49,370 --> 00:22:50,710 We had school loans, 8 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:52,770 I got pregnant 9 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,350 his job 10 00:22:56,190 --> 00:22:58,990 evan was an environmental consultant. 11 00:22:59,070 --> 00:23:02,100 Builder's hired him to help them clean up their sites. 12 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,450 Make sure they were up to epa code. 13 00:23:04,530 --> 00:23:07,310 Evan thought they hired him to do the right thing. 14 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,150 - Did he? - No. 15 00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:11,350 Developers don't care about mercury in the groundwater. 16 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,400 They just want to pass inspection as fast and cheap as possible. 17 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:16,940 He had a budget, 18 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,990 it was never enough, 19 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,250 but they didn't care how he spent it, 20 00:23:21,310 --> 00:23:23,790 as long as they passed inspection. 21 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,710 Well,how did evan deal with that? 22 00:23:25,790 --> 00:23:27,340 He drank. 23 00:23:28,290 --> 00:23:29,400 It got bad. 24 00:23:30,180 --> 00:23:31,070 How bad? 25 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,200 I thought he might hurt himself. 26 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,220 I didn't know if he could live with it. 27 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,610 How's his relationship with your son liam? 28 00:23:38,670 --> 00:23:40,280 He doesn't have one. 29 00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:45,050 I had to threaten to take him to court to get him to pay child support. 30 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,850 Must've either scared the hell out of him or really pissed him off. 31 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,940 Why's that? 32 00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:56,240 Because every sunday night for the past 9 months 33 00:23:56,310 --> 00:24:00,360 he tosses $2,000 cash through the mail slot. 34 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:03,740 He left long before I threw him out. 35 00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:07,160 I don't know. 36 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,940 I will. 37 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:12,900 But I promise I'm going to give it to you. 38 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,750 Ok. 39 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,840 I love you,too. 40 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,750 Everything ok? 41 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,780 Yeah. 42 00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:21,410 You know, for a guy claiming to be innocent, 43 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,230 he's acting pretty guilty. 44 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:27,920 I never underestimate the effect being confronted by the fbi will have on a suspect. 45 00:24:28,030 --> 00:24:29,120 I don't think he's effected, 46 00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:30,580 I think he's freaked out. 47 00:24:30,660 --> 00:2